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Hi Folks!
Wonder if any of you can help me with a question about purchasing a digital camera.
It's for my girlfriend at her job. She is in PR. She wants a camera to be on site for various kinds of work that they do. It would be a kind of back-up to the work of the professional photographers that they work with.
They need some very very easy to operate and cheap. Like under $200 if possible.
Is there something in that range? Or is that too low to get anything that functions well? I don't think they can buy a used camera, unless it is from a camera store/ official dealer of some kind.
Thanks so much,
Jon
Wonder if any of you can help me with a question about purchasing a digital camera.
It's for my girlfriend at her job. She is in PR. She wants a camera to be on site for various kinds of work that they do. It would be a kind of back-up to the work of the professional photographers that they work with.
They need some very very easy to operate and cheap. Like under $200 if possible.
Is there something in that range? Or is that too low to get anything that functions well? I don't think they can buy a used camera, unless it is from a camera store/ official dealer of some kind.
Thanks so much,
Jon
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Re: Camera Purchasing Question
Wed, May 6, 2009 - 11:18 PM
What kind of jobs does the firm do?
For example, if they typically do "small object" product shots -- food, jewelry, objects d'art, etc -- then IMHO they probably can't adequately cover that need via "very very easy to operate" P&S; understanding depth-of-field and, bokeh, and the like, is probably more than they're up for. Many $200ish (and under) cameras are *capable* of doing it... but only via delving into manual settings...
What kind of shots are the pro's taking, that they need "backup" for?
Are we talking "grab shots" of events? That kind of spontaneous and snap-shooting often does well with P&S cameras. Or have we booked a model (or several), plus makeup and wardrobe people, maybe paid for the whole crew to go somewhere to shoot on-site? While the P&S will doubtless capture great pix... so will a cellphone under these circumstances! Whether the pix are good *enough* is another matter entirely...
NOTE: When you hire a skilled, professional photographer, the pro-caliber gear s/he brings to the shoot is often the LEAST signifigant thing he contributes, even if it's $20K or more of gear... Knowlege of the art and the craft of photography, a cultivated "eye" for a good shot... these are the *REAL* benefit the pro brings! And no, you can't buy these. Not even from an official dealer...
What's the final intended result?
If it's one of the high-end image markets, their chances of satisfying them with the amateur-shot P&S is VERY low.
All that said... P&S cameras are getting REALLY good these days. $200 buys a helluva lotta camera compared to 5 years ago. Most of the makers are pretty darned good.
- Steve S.
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Re: Camera Purchasing Question
Thu, May 7, 2009 - 8:33 AMthanks for the info!
will forward the response to my girlfriend...
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Re: Camera Purchasing Question
Thu, May 7, 2009 - 2:39 PMJon, I agree with steve, it is a shame a PR firm wants a cheap P&S, with that said, it leaves me with an impression point and shoot photography is all they value, they are not photographers, nor want to understand gear.
Good gear is not cheap, nor is a good photographer with good skill set respected for what they are worth, sorta of like some one is a haute cuisine chef compared to a short order cook.
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Re: Camera Purchasing Question
Fri, May 8, 2009 - 12:47 AMnot explaining the situation very well.
and the PR is for a non-profit.
...they are in a horrible budget crunch from the big Wall St. mess (the Wall Street crowd have been some of their biggest donors).
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Re: Camera Purchasing Question
Fri, May 8, 2009 - 10:52 AMJon, I think that just about any name brand P&S would work for getting decent shots. Technology has come a long way, and the $100-$200 range in cameras are used by many many people to get usable shots. You get what you pay for, of course, and that includes the photog shooting the images. But I can see where having a P&S sitting around would work well for a non-profit. Candids, used to document the work done by the NP can be very effective in defending budgets. A picture IS worth a thousand words, even a poor pic. Especially in a NP situation, people want to know their money is really helping those poor kids (or whatever work the NP does is getting done).
I think if you go down to your local camera shop, and ask them for what is available in that price range from Nikon, Canon, Fuji, Pentax, or another well known brand, you'll get a decent camera that does good usable images. They won't have the best contrast range, you won't have delicate manual control, but the person who gets handed the cam and told to "go take some shots of them" will be able to document what is going on. Optimum would be to get Sebastiao Salgado over there to shoot the shots, but NP's have to work with what they have. And that means they can't always afford to have the pro hang around for hours and days to get complete coverage or snag that *perfect* shot.
And if you go with the girlfriend to help, you can judge the ease of use and be the "expert", insuring that things such as pic quality do work, and that the camera will get what you want. I think all too often we forget that there are millions of people taking millions of images with cheap junky camera, and that the person behind the camera matters more than the camera. Some of those millions turn out stunning and moving shots. As long as the average person can operate the camera, I think you'll be on solid ground for what the NP wants.
Good luck.
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Re: Camera Purchasing Question
Sun, May 10, 2009 - 10:53 PM
Generally, steer clear of the latest, most-exciting cameras released; they carry top-dollar premiums. One or two models back will be VERY fine performers, no longer in the top-dollar spot and often discounted even more-deeply because of their younger, sexier sisters.
OK, so let's get specific... noble "non-profit" or not, I'm STILL not clear what sorts of shots they'll be wanting.
Are they likely to be shooting indoors, or outdoors, or some of each?
If indoors (with limited light), the ability to interface with an off-camera flash is probably one of the biggest things to look for. The other indoor biggie is good wide-angle capacity, as the often-cramped spaces indoors can mean it's challenging to get all aspects of a shot into a single frame. Pano/stitching can SOMETIMES help, but usually not where the subjects are people (who move between pano panels...) .
The difference between 28mm-equiv and 24mm-equiv is quite notable at the wide end!
For other kinds of shots, other features might be more relevant...
A good site for feature-comparisons is on dpreview...
www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare.asp
will let them search for models fitting a given spec.
Then look at the side-by-side comparison:
www.dpreview.com/reviews/sidebyside.asp
And of course reviews of each camera... tho always take dpreview reviews with a grain of salt... even a whole saltcellar of it...
- Steve
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Re: Camera Purchasing Question
Mon, May 11, 2009 - 8:23 AMthanks so much for all the information
no need to go into any further detail...
if she needs something else, I could ask later.
really, the info you all provided is great, no need to waste your time any further
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