This topic kind of came up before but I wanted to open a new thread. I've looked at the following:
35mm film 24mm x 36mm Ratio: 1:1.5
D200 digital camera 8.64" x 12.907" Ratio 1:1.5
4x6 Ratio 1:1.5
But...
5x7 Ratio: 1:1.4
8x10 Ratio: 1:25
8x11 Ratio: 1:1.38
11x14 Ratio: 1:1.27
I'm really starting to question how I want to shoot. Because most clients don't want a 4x6 print. And sometimes they may want a 5x7 but they might also want an 8x10. Ideally I'd like to frame exactly how I'd like something printed without cropping.
How do you handle this dilemma?
35mm film 24mm x 36mm Ratio: 1:1.5
D200 digital camera 8.64" x 12.907" Ratio 1:1.5
4x6 Ratio 1:1.5
But...
5x7 Ratio: 1:1.4
8x10 Ratio: 1:25
8x11 Ratio: 1:1.38
11x14 Ratio: 1:1.27
I'm really starting to question how I want to shoot. Because most clients don't want a 4x6 print. And sometimes they may want a 5x7 but they might also want an 8x10. Ideally I'd like to frame exactly how I'd like something printed without cropping.
How do you handle this dilemma?
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Re: Shooting, Printing, Cropping
Tue, December 5, 2006 - 7:54 PMJust shoot how it feels good.I never shoot thinking of how
someone else will like my images.They are rarely cropped,but if they are I think another crop-compposition is possible
Great pictures can always be altered a little in size and composition.Sometimes I love a square..a panorama
Mediocre and just good pics..are harder to crop..thats my 2cents..
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Re: Shooting, Printing, Cropping
Tue, December 5, 2006 - 9:03 PM>How do you handle this dilemma?
You don't. When you print an 8X10 from a DSLR or 35mm, you're going to lose 1/6 of the frame. Compose accordingly. As an option, there are other sizes available from labs that use the Fujifilm "Frontier" printing system.
8x12... 1.5:1
10x15...1.5:1
Or for larger format printers, like the Ultrachrome Epsons,
12x18...1.5:1
16x24...1.5:1
Most labs charge the same amount for an 8x12 as an 8x10, and it's not much harder to find frames. -
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Re: Shooting, Printing, Cropping
Tue, December 5, 2006 - 9:38 PMThen of course there is the Olympus E system, and the Panasonic DSLR and one of the Leicas which all shoot in the "Four thirds" format which brings you closer to that 4x5 or 8x10.
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Re: Shooting, Printing, Cropping
Wed, December 6, 2006 - 12:26 AMjust tell the lab to print full frame with the borders on... problems solved... you get your entire image on to paper... just cut off the excess -
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Re: Shooting, Printing, Cropping
Thu, December 7, 2006 - 7:58 AMA camera that shoots in 4:3 aspect ratio does reduce the amount of cropping for standard frame sizes.
The problem with printing a no-crop image is that you can't find a frame for it. You're stuck either buying a custom frame (spendy) or buying a standard frame and matting it down for your image size (cheaper, but still inconvenient and often not quite as tidy, especially with really odd sizes.
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Re: Shooting, Printing, Cropping
Thu, December 7, 2006 - 5:53 PMIs that true that it's not much harder to find an 8x12 frame than an 8x10 frame?
I don't always have the luxury to compose for each print the client may or may not want. If I was talking about personal and/or fine art work, it wouldn't be such an issue. The shooting might be more leisurely and I might be shooting with the final print in mind. -
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Re: Shooting, Printing, Cropping
Thu, December 7, 2006 - 8:21 PMNot MUCH harder, but a little. I work in a camera store/photo lab, and we have a handful of them, as well as 10X15 frames, which are also full frame.
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Re: Shooting, Printing, Cropping
Thu, May 1, 2008 - 9:17 AMI found a site called myframestore.com they have a huge selection and have good prices. My customers love 8x12 and this was my solution.
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Re: Shooting, Printing, Cropping
Sun, May 4, 2008 - 1:31 AMYes, it's quite a dilemma. And don't even start with European standard frame sizes . . . :-)
Personally, I'm a full frame gal. I compose when I shoot. You don't mention what kind of clients you work with, but when I do portrait work, I'll print cropped or full frame depending on the client's request. It's their portrait afterall.
As for art prints, it's always full frame, and I'll do a custom mat. Really, if the print is truly a work of art, then custom matting or framing is a small investment. And besides, would a client tell a painter, "That's great, but can you do that in a 11x14 to fit my frame instead?" (Okay, some do say that, but it's rude.)
Then for commercial clients, ratio is basically irrelevant, since marketing will crop at will.
Just some general thoughts, but it's your work and your vision, so it's all about what you want your prints to be.
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Re: Shooting, Printing, Cropping
Sun, May 4, 2008 - 7:42 AMIf you have access to tethered laptop or computer using Capture one software will solve your problem, by shooting directly to the puter, there are preset frame sizes which you are able to frame out with your subjects.